I have enjoyed reading your posts about the sailing expedition. The quality of the responses is much better, although some still leave room for more detail in addressing the questions. Please continue to strive for excellence in your blog entries as you adress the following topics:
Part I:
I hope you have been making the time to practice and prepare for Pyrofest. As I mentioned, practice will most likely separate those who succeed and those who do not. As you do your research as part of the project, provide a link to three (3) web sites that you used to find information about starting a cooking fire with either one match or no match.
Part II:
As we prepare to head out on the Appalachian Trail, I would like you to consider the term "expedition behavior" or "EB" for short. Visit the following web site and read how John Gookin defines EB:
http://www.nols.edu/alumni/leader/06summer/expedition_behavior.shtml
A. Please list five (5) things that you could do (or not do) while on our backpacking trip that could contribute to (or detract from) good EB.
B. Explain how you think you've been able to contribute to good EB while on our expeditions (and in class) so far.
This post is due before class starts (that's 9:00 am) on Friday morning, Oct. 31 (yep, Halloween!). You may find that trying to complete this on Friday morning is cutting it much too close. As I mentioned before, I recommend completing this by Thursday evening at the latest. Remember to check your schedule to see when your current events assignment is due. This Friday, we'll have Robin and Ben present theirs, as we've missed them the past couple of weeks. See you for Pyrofest!
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samantha sutton
I’ll post the first part later on; I haven’t started research yet, sorry Scott. I haven’t ever been backpacking before…so I have no idea really what is going to happen, so it’s hard to say what I would do to have good expedition behavior. I’d like to say that I’d encourage others who are having a hard time, but what if I’m that person having a hard time…I’m not in the best of shape, anymore. But basically I’ll just jeep an open mind, try to keep a positive attitude, and do the best I can to help anyone in need of help. And I don’t really think our group needs to worry about teamwork, I think we all usually work really well together. We usually all help each other out and try to include everyone in all the activities. I think we will all have good “EB”, however I’m not so sure that our group is always very organized, that’s one flaw I have noticed in our group a few times, like nobody had the schedule on the sailing trip. On our expeditions so far like I said before, I think we have a good group as far as teamwork goes. The kayaking trip was really good. We all had fun, worked together, and all got along. We were well organized for the most part, on time, did the LNT, I thought we were respectful of other campers, and we all helped each other out loading the boats, setting up/taking down camp, and gathering fire wood. However the sailing trip was a little different…less enjoyable to put it politely. I had a bad attitude going into it, and it turned out bad. However at least I wasn’t disappointed because I was expecting it to suck. But anyway, I guess I had bad “EB” on the sailing trip. We were very unorganized, our group didn’t do nautical navigation and we only cooked breakfast, however we did take the quiz. Then everyone got sick and drugged up on Dramamine, or whatever it is. Then we all pretty much weren’t doing anything. But it wasn’t all bad cause we did do little things like help raise sails and manage the helm. But ahh yah I guess that’s all I have to say about that…I don’t like to think of that trip, it was awful…just awful.
Casey
one way i could demonstrate good EB on the trip is by lending a hand if someone gets hurt. I could also boil water for someone and make a nice cupa tea. if needed i could offer encouragement to the group and always keep a smile. Last i could offer water to someone who looks parched.
I've contributed to good EB in class a couple different ways. one would be i offer to try stuff when no one else speaks up and I think maybe it makes people a little more comfortable in trying whatever it is that's going on. Another way would be the advice I offer up to people who seem to uncomfortable or unsure of what there doing. I cant really think of any other way I contribute.
Here is a link. If I did this correctly to a site that I looked into.
www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/outdoorskills/photogallery/article/0,13355,1546757_0,00.html - 87k
For our backpacking trip I believe that to add some good EB for this trip I am hoping that I might
be able to help someone out if they are getting tired or help edge people on that they can do it.
I think our group will be fine. I have confidence in us. I think that I might be cold at night which
could lead to some bad EB complaining. I think that everyone should try to remember to bring
tylenol for this trip because we are going to need it. I think I bring good EB on the trip. On the
sailing trip I really tried to enjoy it. Also everyone was concerned about each other we all
made sure that one another was still breathing and that was really nice. I think that where we all
work well together that we all have good EB and that the backpacking trip is going to be fun.
I have looked on some sites for startin g fires with one match they have some helpful information to start a fire and it make it easy to understand going step by step. Making my own fire is going to be a new experience to me even if it is going to be a little one, I have helped out on making a big bon fire at my camp and than gathering wood for the kayaking trip. This back packing trip is going to be another new experience but I am hoping we will have a good time. I looked at that site that you had for us and it didn't have that much info but I get the concept of EB. The five things of EB to do is do your share, be concerned for others as you are for yourself, support leadership and growth in everyone, admit and correct your mistakes, and be kind and open hearted, five things not to do on the trail are , horsing around, leave trash around, playing in the fire , leaving someone behind, and being rude to others. I think I have contributed to EB by being kind, having a good time such as not saying anything that would hurt anyone’s feeling and loving to make everyone laugh, cleaning up my trash such as throwing away the wrapper from the granola bar and also washing my dishes that I used and putting them away, and helping other when I am needed.
Brad Gordon
Part 1
Had years of practice starting fires sense ima pyro anyway have had some experience with a flint and steel in the past just for fun or to pass the time. Havent had much practice with starting fires when everything is yet without a match or lighter or kinda gas. did some search on a few sites about tips to getting fires going without the use of matches or lighters and here they r.
http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/how-to-start-a-fire.htm/printable
http://www.ehow.com/how_2466_start-fire-without-matches.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081009053228AAh9sXH
Part 2
Would basicly be like everyday life and treating thegroup with respect and not do anything that could put each other down or make them feel not part of the group.
Could give a lending hand to help out someone if they are having trouble with something or just make a simple snack if they seem to need it. will admit when i am wrong with my choices or actions instead of lieing about them or trying to continue it and making it worse. Will do what i can to do my share of work if it be cleaning up or just cooking for the group.
I believe ive peformed well in the past trips for doing my share aswell as helping others if needed. When it was my groups turn to cook i made sure to do as much as i could well still not over doing it. If it be gathering wood or just setting and taking stuff down try to do it right and if i dont know how i still try and ask so i learn as i go.
http://tions.net/CA256EA900408BD5/vwWWW/outdoor~03~051
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/scoutnotebook/fires/cooking.html
http://www.howtocampingtips.com/breaking-camp/campfire-building-tips.php
There are a few different examples given in the National Outdoor Leadership School article that illustrate what expedition behavior (EB) is. And what it seems to boil down to is respect for others, and a sort of an egalitarian perspective on how things should work. Some of the examples were keeping a smile on your face through five days of torrential rains, or bringing your tentmate a hot beverage. NOLS even went on to draft a definition for “EB”; Be as concerned for others as you are for yourself, and help others but don’t routinely do their work, are just a few on the list that define EB.
I think some of us displayed some EB during the sailing trip when we decided to turn back from our trip. We stopped and headed home after the rough night at sea, even though not everyone wanted to stop. You could say we have dignity and respect for the other members of our group, and this is a sign of EB in practice everyday, not just on the trail. After all we are in the all of the same classes through the week, and trips and some of us even live closely in the dorms. I think most of us are doing pretty well considering all of this time together. And this is exactly what NOLS is shooting for, they want people to be great leaders and individuals, be able to admit when they are wrong, be honest and accountable, and foster leadership and growth in everyone. EB definitely sounds like something that society would benefit from.
Dana Marble:
Typing in the phrase one match campfires and no match campfires yeilded essentially the same results. Most sites used the same methods that we used last Friday. The first website, www.nordskogen.north shield.org/campfires_101htm, was under campfires 101. There are three different types listed, A-Frame, Teepees, and Log Cabin. They all use the same basic methods tinder, kindling, and fuel , there was nothing new here.
Wikipedia, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/campfire, had a lot of information on the dangers and safety measures of campfires. Again ther is nothing new here that we haven't already covered.
Many of the sites are just blind leads trying to sell camping equipment or books. You have to be pretty selective in your choices. Otherwise a lot of time cam be wasted trying to find information. One of these is "Building a Campfire", www.megaessays.com/viewpaper/8005htlm, starts out with an essay on building a camfpfire. At the end thereis no real information but you cam subscribe to the website for $19.99 and view this and 100,000 others. A waste of time.
NOLS's take on EB is interesting and informative. Basically it comes down to what we as a group should and have been doing, working as a team. The Appalation Trail will bring out the best and worst of all of us. There will be stronger or weaker members of the group, if the stronger ones help share the burdens of those having trouble, the entire group benefits. It's a noble concept and should be relavent not just on the Appalation Trail but in our everyday lives.
I think practicing all of the concepts listed is worthwhile. treat people with dignity when they are having a bad day or not performing up to par would help them get through a bad day. I especially liked the concept of giving a helping hand to share someones burden but not doing their work. Having a chipper attitude and a smile on my face after five days of rain would be a challege. This pretty much mirrors being kind and open-hearted when others in the group are feeling stressed out.
And finally if you make a mistake ouwn up to it and try not to make the same mistake twice.
The three websites that I used to figure out how to start a fire would be http://wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/fire/bowdrill/index.html, http://www.primitiveways.com/pt-bowfire.html, http://www.natureskills.com/bow_drill_fire_making.html. Tried to use the bow drill a couple times with not much success this was all because my base was wobbling. The next time I had a different base and it worked a lot better still not great I got smoke but no hot red coals…while we are on the trip some things that I could do that would show good ethical behavior would be I could help other people when they asked for help instead of just blowing them off and getting things done alone and done faster. Another couple things I could do is give people incentive to keep going and I could talk to people and get everyone involved. I could also help someone out if they were too tired to cook or something if I had more than enough energy left I could make y meal along with theirs so they could conserve an ill energy for the rest of the night to take part in activities or group conversations. some ways I have contributed to good EB would be that on the boat I helped people out on the chart and course plotting part of it when they were getting frustrated and I gave DJ half a bottle of Dramamine so he would be all set for the rest of the trip instead of hiding them away and not saying anything making it a miserable for the rest of the trip. We also cooked meals for other people on the boat which in a way is good EB because its helping out everyone else even though they really weren’t supposed to cook it was helping them out
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